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Stockwhip project

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 10:34
by Jyri Haveri
So I am going to try to make nylon stockwhip maybe 7ft long. This is first one I have ever tryed so any advice is more than welcome. I think I do little shot bag and... 2 plaited bellyes+overlay
How do you guys do them? I try to find more information from the forum when kids go to sleep.

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 12:12
by Rachel McCollough
Hi Jyri, there's much more all over WB about stockwhips, but here Alia a good start.

One thing I would suggest for your first one is either a twisted taper core or several individual strands laid together and bound. Or alternatively a three-two-one strand core with a six-five-four plait for a core. Easy and simple, but not too heavy. If you've got a long handle that extra weight can be very tiring


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Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 12:49
by Jyri Haveri
Thank you Rachel!
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I already started the whip but maybe its not too late to take the bbs out
I have some bbs inside paracord wich has paracord over it

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 14:13
by Jyri Haveri
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I made new core. Now its 4 paracords inside one another wich get shorter towards the tip.

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 14:19
by Ron May
Jyri, I can't imagine how hard that was to insert four cords basically into one.
How did you do it?

Ron

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 14:41
by Rachel McCollough
Looks great, Jyri!

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 14:53
by Jesse Bessette
Jyri, that seems like a great start. I have a pair of nylon stockwhips from Steve Huntress of Noreast Whips. They have a core, one belly, the the overlay. Two bellies may be too heavy.

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 15:44
by Brandon "Sparky" Lam
Jyri I'd agree with everyone here, small core, 1 belly only and an overlay :) You'll find that anything thicker will be a bit heavy, which is great for making a much louder sound but you'll get tired much easier too.

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 16:13
by Jyri Haveri
Thanks everyone!
Ron, three was easy fourth was bit tricky, I just melted the thick end as narrow as I could and started "milking" it in there. Fourth layer goes almost all the way to the end of the core. It produced very nice smooth taper witch was stiff. I have to use it in my other whips too.
I am going to do overlay to this as you guys suggested.
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Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 22:26
by Jyri Haveri
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This is where I got this far. I hope it works but its try and error at this point.

Posted: Mon 8. May 2017, 22:36
by Ron May
Jyri, it's looking good so far.
I like the color combination.
Good job.

Ron

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 02:20
by Brandon "Sparky" Lam
I like that combo! Looking good Jyri :)

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 02:37
by Rachel McCollough
Looking great!

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 05:50
by Sven van Leeuwen
That's looking really good. I was suprised to you about your core.
I managed to get one strand of paracord through another strand, but that's it. Imagine getting four...
Very impressive.

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 14:10
by Jyri Haveri
Thanks everyone!
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Overlay done! And I can proudly say this is roundist and smoothist whip I have ever done! Next the handle. I have to get some wood. Any advice to attach keeper to the handle?

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 14:16
by Ron May
Jyri, that's looking very good.
Nice job.
In the photo it looks remarkably like leather.
Making each whip better than the last is a goal for every maker to aspire.

Ron

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 16:03
by Robert Gage
Jyri, that's looking really nice! :)

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 16:25
by Rachel McCollough
Jyri, great job! That's a really nice fall hitch, too!

I'm no expert but I've made a few tries...
Are you going to use a piece of nylon flat strap or a plaited keeper?

Next question, are you going to tie a knot over the place you bind it on, or a grapevine hitch? Or none?

If you are covering it you can bind it on with sinew with French Whipping. (Basically same as binding your whip thong). A binding around 1.5" in length is minimum I would suggest, maybe more.

If you're not covering the binding use a twisted ply thread like saddle stitching thread, any very good strong twisted thread.

Make sure you have a bit of a channel cut into your wood about 3/4" or 1" from the tip for the binding to grab into.

That's about all I have :)

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 16:58
by Jyri Haveri
Thanks!
Rachel, I think I am going to make plaited keeper and try grapevine hich. Just got home with kids and took some wood with me. I think it might be bit short but I give it a try anyway.

Posted: Tue 9. May 2017, 18:17
by Matt Henderson
That's your first stockwhip thong?....

I want to swear, it's that good. My first stockwhip thong looked like a fat snake that'd been run over by a van at one end.